and if there were it would bore you rigid..........without the lows you won't appreciate the highs in a relationship...........
fluffy
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Numerology of Jim
POP!!!!......THE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERFECTION............
and if there were it would bore you rigid..........without the lows you won't appreciate the highs in a relationship...........
fluffy Fluffy
You are WRONG. And I won't lose faith. My grandparents had perfection....the perfect marriage. Sure...they might have weathered troubles together....but together is the important word. Anyone want a balloon? "When in doubt, tell the truth."
Mark Twain
i stand by my belief that perfection is unrealistic and frankly unattractive.........it's the challenge of an interesting journey with a man with quirks and flaws and attractions which interests me.........
Someone with a bit of fire and belief..............i'll match him every step of the way.........lol.......i like stable and unstable...........i like to go with the flow.......i guess thats my idea of perfection.......lol........a man unafraid to take risks...... fluffy Fluffy
You sound as though you are one of those people who thrives on friction in a relationship.
I don't. I think some people CHOOSE the friction, but it's not what I want. Be the change you want to see in the world. I'll never wind up on Dr. Phil about love....and it may be...that because of my views that a relationship should help to fill you up....not knock you down, life's full of enough of that...it may be this belief that ensured I remain single. I'm hard enough on myself that any guy who started with that crap, I'd kick to the curb. Life's too short. My boat sails on a smooth ocean. "When in doubt, tell the truth."
Mark Twain
probably..........but not the really mean destructive friction........but a certain amount of healthy sparring is good..........it keeps everyone on their toes............and creates mutual respect.........but i'm not the kind of girl who wants to emasculate the man by making him small.........i know when to back off and i'm always ready to apologise............
but i think it's healthy to have a degree of friction in a relationship.....it keeps it alive........i've had the apathetic acceptance and it killed me..... Apathy rots the soul............i'd rather have 1 year of fluctuating extremes than 10 years of mediocre apathy..... but that's just me........
fluffy Fluffy
This is not what I'm talking about. If I touted that kind of thing, I'd BE IN an apathetic relationship right now. But I think society has been somewhat influenced by soaps, talk shows, etc....that they think love has to be painful. There is enough of a roller coaster in my brain, that I don't want to worry in a relationship, too. I want devotion. I'm willing to give that in return. I don't need tension in a relationship. Doesn't mean everyone shuts up and doesn't express themself, quite the opposite. Someone with whom you can discuss things rationally and not get all PO'd. Someone who you respect even if their opinion differs from yours. And numerology: Phht! We are way too complex as human beings to be pigeonholed like that. "When in doubt, tell the truth."
Mark Twain
This one is for JT Carrey....read the paragraph before Linda's because it explains how the negatives work, as there are postives and negatives to any relationship. Here we don't use the birthtime/place, so it doesn't include the rising sign for the compatibility report. The rising sign is the only sign that depends on the birthtime.
02/09/1982 12:00 Julian day 2445010.00 Adjust 0.00 ST 21.17 Lat 0.00 Long 0.00 01/17/1962 21:40 Julian day 2437682.40 Adjust 0.00 ST 5.27 Lat 0.00 Long 0.00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following table shows the inter-planetary aspects between the two charts. 02/09/1982 Aspect 01/17/1962 Orb/Value Sun Conjunction Mercury 4.55 204 Moon Conjunction Pluto 4.05 79 Mercury Conjunction Saturn 2.10 125 Venus Conjunction Sun 3.55 195 Venus Conjunction Venus 1.38 67 Mars Trine Mercury 2.56 76 Mars Square Mars 0.03 -158 Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 3.18 71 Jupiter Sextile Pluto 0.12 57 Saturn Trine Moon 2.32 73 Saturn Square Venus 2.53 -76 Neptune Opposition Moon 1.43 -69 Neptune Trine Uranus 3.19 33 Pluto Square Sun 0.25 -135 Pluto Trine Moon 2.11 58 Pluto Square Venus 1.51 -79 1038 -517 521 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inter-planetary aspects The following aspects between planets concern the possible relationships between two charts: especially the emotional and romantic relationship, but also aspects on social, intellectual and spiritual levels. 204 Conjunction Sun - Mercury Positive aspect: They are able to solve problems when they put their heads together. Respect for each other's intelligence. Good understanding between the two persons and intellectual interests in common, the same type of curiosity. 195 Conjunction Sun - Venus Positive aspect: It's not only about love, it's about "like". It would be a good idea to schedule plenty of leisure time together, especially when other problems arise in the relationship, if only to remind each other how much they truly enjoy each other's company, tastes, and interests. They go well together, they love each other, and feel good, happy and radiant in each other's company. There is much attraction, especially on the part of the Venus person. They are capable of charming each other. Sometimes, they gloss over problems and conflicts just in order to keep the peace, which is not a good idea in the long run. -158 Square Mars - Mars Negative aspect: Life together, if this happens, will be full of aggression and conflict. -135 Square Sun - Pluto Negative aspect: A great physical attraction will unite the couple, but this relationship is unlikely to be healthy. The Pluto person tries to change the Sun person, which is not at all appreciated, and this leads to sometimes violent conflict. If the relationship ends, much bitterness and anger might be the result. 125 Conjunction Mercury - Saturn Positive aspect: If Mercury is looking for a mother or father in the spouse, then this aspect is very favorable. Saturn will give a lot on the intellectual level and in life in general. 79 Conjunction Moon - Pluto Positive aspect: An uncontrollable great passion which might be a nuisance, as it sometimes lacks thought or control. Jealousy, possessiveness, absolute need of the other's presence 24 hours out of 24 can be issues. However, when trust is in place, they both will appreciate that their relationship is growth-oriented and far from a lifeless routine. Their feelings for each other evolve over time, and they learn from each other on an emotional level at every twist and turn. This fact is a treasure. The love they share is transforming in nature, so that they both feel renewed - almost like they are "new" people - through the relationship. -79 Square Venus - Pluto Negative aspect: A very strong passion but destructive, to be avoided if at all possible. Jealousy, possessiveness, and resentment are very possible. If the relationship ends, it is difficult to remain friends, as one person feels burned. 76 Trine Mercury - Mars Positive aspect: They stimulate each other to be more creative and expressive. They learn a great deal from each other. They understand each other, like to discuss things with each other and undertake joint initiatives. Great intellectual understanding. -76 Square Venus - Saturn Negative aspect: Unfavorable union, as it will be very difficult for a Venus to put up with a Saturn who is too austere, cold, hides their feelings and puts Venus ill-at-ease. 73 Trine Moon - Saturn Positive aspect: They will lead their lives together, with the Moon bringing fantasy to Saturn, who is sometimes too austere but whose other qualities (which the Moon does not possess) are appreciated. Two people whose difference in character is made to complement each other. 71 Conjunction Jupiter - Neptune Positive aspect: A potential union. Look at the other aspects. -69 Opposition Moon - Neptune Negative aspect: This union will be full of illusions and disappointments. They will find it difficult to understand each other. Unfaithfulness and lies are on the agenda. 67 Conjunction Venus - Venus Positive aspect: Complete respect for each other's romantic style. They don't easily offend each other and instinctively understand what makes the other person happy. Conflicts arise, but they are generally smoothed over with ease, as there is good will between them. Very good aspect for a successful union. Love, gaiety, understanding. 58 Trine Moon - Pluto Positive aspect: An uncontrollable great passion which might be a nuisance, as it sometimes lacks thought or control. Jealousy, possessiveness, absolute need of the other's presence 24 hours out of 24 can be issues. However, when trust is in place, they both will appreciate that their relationship is growth-oriented and far from a lifeless routine. Their feelings for each other evolve over time, and they learn from each other on an emotional level at every twist and turn. This fact is a treasure. The love they share is transforming in nature, so that they both feel renewed - almost like they are "new" people - through the relationship. 57 Sextile Jupiter - Pluto Positive aspect: A possible union. Look at the other aspects to interpret exactly.
If it says Saturn does this, or the moon is this....look at the list above, and Jim's is always on the right. So if it says Saturn conjuction Moon for example on the list above, then you are represented by Saturn and Jim by the Moon in that case. It should correspond to the birthdates in the first line where it lists all the aspects (conjunction, trine, etc)
Michele! Thank you so much for doing my and Jims chart! Very interesting..Whether its true or not though, the chart shows good news to me! hehehe. Looks like I can bissfully lose myself in my fantasies after all....
Cheers, Linda M
I don't believe perfection exists. You can get close, but never quite there. It's like Carl Rogers' seventh stage of Process. You can never quite be that fully functioning person..... Mind you, I don't really want a totally harmonious relationship. I, too, think it sounds a bit.....boring. Friction can be good. It can be challenging but rewarding too. Buuuuttttt, if you like friction and you get a relationship like that - is it perfection for you? 
......uh oh......brain overload......  Everybody should believe in something.
I believe I'll have another coffee! 
lol......to a degree yes..............lol.........but it's a positive type of friction.......the type that keeps people alert to the other and provides spark and challenge..........
NOT the posionous spiteful derogatory friction which hurts..........
fluffy Fluffy
....and yet some people do really thrive on that type of stuff. And who are we to argue? But I agree, positive friction is good and gives you the buzz that may be missing in another 'more perfect' relationship. Everybody should believe in something.
I believe I'll have another coffee!
It keeps things more interesting....you can't FEAR conflict, because that keeps things much too boring....it almost reminds me of the saying, no pain, no gain...or something like that...although you have to be careful how you interpret that....
And you can't just sit back and accept everything...I believe there is way too much of that going on in the world.....of course peace IS very important, but it helps to let your feelings/opinions known....vocally at least
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