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Postby Janel » Sun May 15, 2005 12:35 am

You're right, quirky--that's one of those that everyone likes to have an opinion on... :?
Also--fluffy--I started a new topic on pets--go to the furry friends topic--my dear kitty Sweet Pea was murderously taken from me....we can talk all we want to about our furry friends--and if you are crazy, then SO AM I!!!!
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Postby jc_#1fan » Sun May 15, 2005 1:25 am

Wow! I haven't posted on this board very much, but i'm sure impressed on how well the replies, and thoughts have come in. Thank you for your thoughts. It seems Jim knows there is a God, and I feel that he is searching for that fulfillment in spirituality, which is good, I just wish he was more certain of it. Thanks again for all of your thoughts.
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Postby wonderbunny » Sun May 15, 2005 4:11 am

I talk to him daily. So many times the same thoughts appear. I imagine he's a little confused at what his children are doing. So many 'religions' worshipping one diety and claiming its the only way to get to him. He's as real as the wind rain and sunshine. He wrote a fascinating book and every problem humans deal with has been clearly written about so we don't have to go through it. The results of sin are pretty clear, life is not supposed to be so complicated. Its reminds me bit like the tower of Babylon: Built to reach Heaven, and destroyed because there were too many different faiths and languages, and scattered across the earth. We humans can make life so difficult. How many holy wars have there been in the name of God? Thou shall not kill steal mame or take the name if vain. Apparently Gossip is the same of character assasination (murder of someones character or good name) I like that one and thats a tough one to refrain from. I try to remember... how would I feel if it was done to me?
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Postby quirky » Sun May 15, 2005 5:24 am

We humans can make life so difficult.


You can say that again. You know, you seem very secure in your faith, but kind of sad at the same time.

If the lightswitch ever flips on for me, I don't want it to be about being sad.
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Postby fluffy » Sun May 15, 2005 12:25 pm

i'm not convinced it 'flips on'.........i reckon it'll creep up like grey hair....or arthritis........and by the time i'm a little old lady you'll find me in church 'cramming for my finals'.......lol :lol:


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Postby quirky » Sun May 15, 2005 2:32 pm

i'm not convinced it 'flips on'


I'm not convinced of anything. I mean, I'm not convinced I'm right, or anyone else is right, or wrong. I've had people close to me say it is like one of Oprah's "A-ha" moments. So, I couldn't exclude that possibility.
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Postby Janel » Sun May 15, 2005 7:09 pm

I'd say it's not what ya know but rather WHO you know!! I've heard it said that when we stand before the judgement seat of God (which is in heaven, NOT here on earth as many "jerks for Jesus" love to pass judgement.... :? ) it won't be like we will be given a knowledge test like an SAT :scholar: .....but instead will be given a DNA test----one that determines if we are, indeed, family.......... :wink: No need to study for that kind of test! Ya either have Christs "DNA" or ya don't.....

It is so difficult to discuss matters such as this without becoming defensive...I am so proud of us......!!!!! =D>

And about that lightswitch--some might have it and others might not. I think that some people are just wired to sit back and check everything out before "jumping in". I was the individual that jumped on the bandwagon because that was how I was raised. It wasn't until many years later, as a newlywed, that my then husband accused me of not knowing what I believed and only believing because I was told to do so. Wow---he was right---I decided to check it all out myself--believe because I KNEW for myself that God was God and that he even gave a crap about me. I can say with confidence that God does give a crap--and more!! He never fails, what He says is true, and having taught His ways to my 2 teens, they are encouraged to find it--why do you believe that? Question me....question God...it's normal to do so...they are building a foundation of trust.......sigh....so cool!
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Postby lammy » Mon May 16, 2005 4:35 am

God is BEAUTIFUL
God is the best friend I've ever had
I LOVE him
And I know I am not perfect but I know he still LOVES me
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Postby nicesock! » Mon May 16, 2005 6:57 pm

How wounderful to have a pleasant conversation about religion. This is great. Keep it up. I love knowing that God's mercy and love are gifts, and all we have to do is receive them. I don't even want to think about how my life would be with out my faith. It is nice to experience joy, hope, love, and acceptance in my journey in life.

That's my two cents!! :wink:
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Postby quirky » Tue May 17, 2005 3:36 am

Here's a recent story about unexplainable circumstances that is bound to be quite lengthy.

For my five years in the lobby of the Emergency Room, I worked with a sometimes cantankerous, but mostly great triage nurse. We occasionally had small tiffs, but I can't count all the days we worked in tandem shooting each other looks that said, "Can this day get any worse?" And it usually did. There was just the two of us out there, so we had to hold each other up. She could be brusque and I had my moments of..."Aaaaaaauuuguhthhththtt", too, but she was a very solid person.

She had been there for umpteen years, before the hospital mergers and even dating back to the time when smoking was allowed in the emergency room. I heard all the good stories. Her meek and smiley friend of many years and Bible Study buddy, had also worked at the hospital forever and was an aide on another floor, but they often came in together because they lived very close. Her friend is SO sweet. Very timid and gentle and sensitive and always smiling. I called her "Sparky" because she had an accident one day with an electrical hospital bed and the nickname stuck. Their families had always been together. On days that presented themselves as something out of Dante's Inferno. When we had three patients with chest pain, someone who cut a finger off, a vomiting dialysis patient and a baby seizing with a fever all stacked up sometimes her friend would come down to say, "Hiya!" And stand there and she would say, "Don't you DARE stand there and smile at me!" It used to make me laugh.

Needless to say, the nurse I worked with got sick. She got breast cancer and had a mastectomy and chemo and radiation and after all of that, she still came back to her full-time position. She saw her second daughter get married and another grandchild born before the cancer came back and started eating her. And she still came back. One day she was so tired I was worried about her driving home. But you could never have SAID anything to her about it, because she was in charge...in every way, in charge.

The next day (her day off) I called Sparky and asked her to come down and talked to her about it. And she said, "I'm so glad you said something, because I've been worried, too. I'll go to the house and talk with her husband after work."

There turned out to be no need to do that, because she had checked herself into the hospital for uncontrolled pain that day. I would pop up to check on her occasionally. She did get to go home for a week, but then had to be readmitted. I never heard her complain once about the pain, but I can't imagine how all-consuming it must have been.

Towards the end and while she was still lucid, I went up to see her and she was alone in the room. I noticed that she had gotten flowers and it had one of those pale angel collectible statues in the middle of it. She said she collected those and I hadn't known that, or I would have gotten her one! She said she already had the one in the bouquet, but she told me that Sparky had given her one. And it was the "gardening angel" and it was holding a spade. (My friend LOVED to garden and used to bring bouquets of fresh flowers into the ER regularly.) When Sparky gave her the angel she said to her, "What's it doing? Diggin my grave?" And as she was telling me she just started to laugh and laugh. And I said, "Oh my gosh. You did NOT say that to Sparky!" And she laughed harder.

A week later she was gone.

When someone goes, the hole that's left seems so big and quiet. It was hard to think about the funeral because I'm not great at those. I had the soundtrack to "Oh brother Where art Thou?" and I don't know how many times I stuck my CD player on to listen to "I'll fly Away" to try to get my sadness and confusion under control. Right before I had to drive myself to the funeral I stood on the back patio listening to it again.

I had not planned on going to the interment (or as my dad liked to call it, the "planting") just the funeral, but when I talked to Sparky, she said, "You are coming to the interment, right? I want you to ride with us."
There weren't a bunch of people at the funeral and by far the snifflingest section was the ER corner. Where the scrub-clad (those who'd come from work) and Kleenex holding ones of us sat. Tears were shed and it was really a beautiful service. At the very end, the minister announced that they were going to play a recording of my friend's daughter singing one of her favorite songs. It started and I was blown away. It was "I'll Fly Away" and I'm afraid there wasn't enough Kleenex after that.

So I told Sparky I would ride to the interment with her. It was way out in the country, between the corn and the corn. She wanted to drop her husband off at home afterwards and then just the two of us drove back into the church and talked about our friend and reminisced. I told Sparky about my visit to her room and that she had told me what she said about the angel. Sparky said, "The gardening angel with the shovel?" I said, "Yeah, she thought she was really clever and was really amused at the idea that she asked you if it was digging her grave."

Sparky said, "I gave her that angel when she first started her chemo YEARS ago. I have always felt rotten about that. I really thought I hurt her feelings!" I said, "Wow! She talked like you had JUST given it to her...and she was laughing." I think that's the best car ride I've ever had.
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Postby fluffy » Tue May 17, 2005 10:47 am

:cry:
That's a really beautiful story Jill.......thankyou......

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Postby Canadian Jayne » Tue May 17, 2005 5:44 pm

Sorry, just realized I haven't read everything on the thread.
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Postby Janel » Tue May 17, 2005 10:40 pm

wow.....really great story....
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Postby quirky » Tue May 17, 2005 10:50 pm

Janel wrote:wow.....really great story....


I think it's part of the reason I resigned my job.
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Postby nicesock! » Wed May 18, 2005 4:28 am

What a beautiful story Quirky. Thank you for sharing that with us. Now I must search for kleenex myself. (I am such a softy.)
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