AdaL wrote:
Well, no the conversation does not leave us in the same position. I don't think it is remotely unhealthy to discuss what's going on; quite the contrary actually.
And maybe practically speaking little can actually be done, but what *can* be done is to inform each other and other people on the facts here as opposed to allowing the lies to fester and perpetuate in the way that the media is currently doing.
Think about it - google Jim Carrey and this is the only and biggest fansite. I can *bet* you that people will come here for info and to snoop around on opinions. Undoubtedly.
I have lost count of the amount of times on other sites people have posted "oh my god, I had no idea" and "Well, that shows things in a whole different light", when I've explained the back story on what's going on here re: Scientology etc.
That is INSANELY valuable. And if people come on here and find......nothing. What does that say? It just leaves people with the lies that the media are feeding everyone to satisfy their sales and generate clickbait. Earlier I actually read a headline that said "Carrey intimidating ex's family"... I mean...WTAF.
And if people don't stand up for him publicly and smack people in the face with the facts, the damage to his reputation is done and these fuckers are winning.
And yes, this has been ALL over the news in the UK.. The tabloids are creaming themselves over it.
Believe me, it IS doing good to discuss it. Nobody HAS to get involved and if you don't want to discuss it then fine, but I don't believe it's OK to suggest people should shut up about it. Far from it.
And in regards to what Jim would want.. Well, I would imagine Jim would want to not be attacked by a bunch of scheming, evil extortionists who are hell bent on exploiting tragedy and ruining him, but sadly that is what's happening. I'm sure he'd LOVE for the focus to be on his art - wouldn't we all.. but life doesn't go the way you want.
I don't know the man, but if I were in his position, I would want people speaking up for me, supporting me and telling the truth. Particularly people on my own fansite.
I'm certain he wishes that this shit wasn't happening at all .. but it is. And people who believe in decency and the truth can step up and do their bit, no matter how small.
What drives me crazy is lies, shit people and apathy and willingness to accept whatever's laid in front of them from the public. What would drive me even *crazier* is to be prevented from speaking up, saying what I feel and telling the truth.
Yes, you can shout all you want and yes of course people have the option to ignore you, but that shouldn't stop you from shouting.
We DO have the power to change minds. As I said above, I've informed SO many people I've spoken to about the truth here and they've completely changed their opinions based on FACTS. This is VERY important. HUGELY, ENORMOUSLY important. Don't underestimate it.
No, we can't make the whole nasty, vicious attack,the evil bastards and the scum lawyer fuck off into the fiery heart of the sun, but we can lessen the impact of the lies they're spreading by telling people the truth.
The negative exists right now whether we like it or not and choosing to ignore it is what attracts more of it and allows it to prosper. Fighting it with the positivity of the truth is what kills it.
And I'm not saying that this should be the only subject on the table, of course not. Discussing his art AND talking about this are not mutually exclusive but choosing to ignore this completely is a massive let-down to him.
I've posted this before and I'll post it again -
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it"
-Albert Einstein
I never said t was unhealthy to discuss things. I believe that’s how you solve anything.
I agree with you on informing about the facts. That’s how we can make a truthfull opinion.
JCO is the best fan website dedicated to Jim. No doubt. And fans, come here to find info about him, whether they participate or not, I’m certain they will.
But the media won’t and some people won’t do it either. Those you are not fans won’t come here for info.
And those you “bet” will may come and change their opinion but won’t transmit the message.
When it comes to do the homework of research to learn something (no matter what), my experience is that people are lazy.
I’m glad you’ve been able to change some people minds. That is just amazing.
When people come here they will find plenty information about his carrer and his life.
But Adal, at some point, the argument is over andd there’s nothing more to discuss because it has already been said.
Otherwise this is will turn into a sensationalize website and that’s the oposite of what a fan website should be.
Those headlines will died down, untill the next “story”, whether is about Jim or any other artist. Remember the gun-control situation a few years ago?
It was all over the news. We here, talked about it, discuss it, made articles about the reactions of both Jim and the world in general but eventually the story moved on.
I even remember when he launch the video “A Love message to Emma Stone” and the mean coments he got mostly of course by the media and anonymous people. Just like you, I took the time to make things clear and if any people changed their mind I never knew.
I realize then that you have to inform people but making a crusade out of it won’t be of service to anyone.
Being his fans, we’ll always stand for him and I’m sure any of us, confronted directy by someone who trashes Jim, we would stand up and say something.
Adal I have done it before just like you’re doing now. I spent a week informing people about the truth. A truth they just need to open their eyes to see.
There’s no damage to his reputation. He hasn’t lost any jobs over it, we’re still here and he’s a great actor.
It’s true that the media influences things and I think that’s a reason to be concerne but so far I haven’t seen any consequences. I think he suffer more judgement from the public in general over the gun-control issue.
Oh right! I forgot in UK the tabloid business is very big. Sorry about that! ^^’
But either way, the info is on tabloid! Nowadays who is stupid enough to take what is said in them as the ultimate truth? Only dumb people.
I agree with you Adal. It is good to discuss it and we have.
I NEVER said you should shut up about it. I just think there’s nothing else to say and that now we have to wait and see what will happen. I feel like when it comes to the info we know, good or bad, we need to wait for the solutions to see what will happen. That’s all.
Oh yes! Jim would definately prefer for none of this crap to happen but he knows by experience that’s always a possibility. It doesn’t justify the mean things but I feel that us being mean won’t do anything either.
We don’t need to become the media to support Jim. We don’t need to be saying the same thing here over and over again and only talk about what the media wants us to focus on to speak for him.
You’re right when you say we should do our part. I’ve done my part and will always continue to do so.
I get it girl. All those things drive me nuts too and I NEVER meant for you to think you couldn’t speak your mind. Trust me, been there, done that. I just believe that we should speak our mind, do what we can in the little we can but not to make it a crusade or just focus on that. I feel like if we did that, automaticlly we woudn’t be better that those who shared hatred.
We here tell the truth about Jim’s carrer and life. But never in a TMZ, tabloid crap way.
We don’t focus on that because, eventually that will died down and be proven a lie.
I think the massive let-down would be to only talk about this because it’s the one think the media is doing.
I’ll wait for what comes next because I believe that if Jim decided to fight for this, this will be solve sooner than we may think.
I don’t want to wake you every morning and feel like the only thing I focus when I think about Jim is on things that at the end of the day, don’t matter.
Today Dumb & Dumber To, premiered for the first time on TV, here is Portugal.
That’s what I will celebrate.
